Thursday, January 12, 2012

Christian Agnostics = Religious Ones?

By now you have all seen this video unless you are living under a rock. I am currently in S. Asia and saw it just about as soon as it was posted. I re-posted the video and I am not saying that I agree with everything in the video, but I do agree that it is all about Jesus and that he wins over religion.

I have seen a mixed reaction to the video, mostly supportive, especially from my grace driven charismatic friends. But the reaction that surprised me most came from my self-proclaimed "Christian agnostic" friends who now apparently have a problem with Jesus > Religion. My take, maybe they are the religious ones.

8 comments:

  1. Forgive my ignorance on the issue, but what the heck is a Christian Agnostic? Seems like a bit of an oxymoron to me?

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  2. JRP1416, I would say that you probably have to ask each individual that self-proclaims such because they probably each mean something a little different. The Christian side believes "enough" to claim being a Christian, but the agnostic part has doubt because of a desire for more knowledge. It is a faith issue, which there has to be an aspect of faith in the Christian life. There are some things that will just not have concrete answers, many that don't require them anyway.

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  3. I'm not a Christian agnostic, just an agnostic (both being very broad labels) but, coming from an evangelical (even fundamentalist) background, I don't necessarily have a "problem" with it, I just think it's inaccurate.

    And, specifically, this video and speaker, seem kinda like a gimmick to me. Like he's "dressing up the outside" to draw people in with his cheesy, sentimental rhymes that don't correspond with any type of Biblical Christianity. Jesus never claimed to "hate religion." He was Jewish, for Christ's sake.

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  4. Hey Kenny, is this Kenny from http://www.bornagainagain.com/? I appreciate your comment and would love for some future dialogue and maybe even guest posts by you on particular topics if you are interested.

    Do you plan to keep up your blog? I noticed it has been quite sometime since you have written, but I believe there is a large group of people out there just like you in regards to upbringing, at one time claimed Christianity, and are now in the agnostic camp.

    Your blog gave me and others deeper insight into our generation as I grew up with many friends that have a similar story. Aside from the grace and truth of Jesus I believe that I would be in the same camp, but I came to a point where I had to separate what I was being fed by others and rediscover the power that made Christianity revolutionary, the Gospel.

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  5. It is the Kenny from BornAgainAgain.com and, actually, the resurrection of that blog is happening soon. Three days even.

    I'd love to do some guest posting and you the same.

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  6. Matt, your portrayal of Christian Agnostic is fairly accurate for the place where I am right now, though I am not completely certain that I can call myself a Christian any longer. I am, however, having trouble wrapping my head around the idea of being "the religious one". That's quite the opposite of where I am at this point. I am also one of the contributing writers to BornAgainAgain.com, which has been a helpful part of my journey. More on the subject though, here is my take on the video:

    I basically see this as Pop-Culture Christianity. It appeals to people because it's a young hipster pseudo-rapper reciting a clever spoken word poem about Jesus to a soundtrack. It's kind of the same way everyone loves that quarterback because he prays as a form of celebration when he makes a good play. Popularity for popularity’s sake but done in the name of Christianity. It’s Christianity for mass media, and people eat that stuff up in the same way that they feel a surge of patriotism when they hear a Toby Keith song on the radio. No matter how bad or insincere it is, it appeals to everyone because they feel that if it didn’t then there must be something wrong with them; that they are less of a Christian or less of an American if they don’t buy into it. I’m certain that this video will be played for every youth group in America, and that people all over the country are using this Tebow guy as the ultimate example of making a stand for God in everything that you do. But I don’t feel that it has anything to do with that. I don’t think that this Bethke kid is saying, “Look at how many people I have reached in the name of God over the past three days,” but is probably more in awe of the six and a half million views on YouTube. I'm not buying into it.

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  7. Shaun, I can see your point and instead of replying in my own words I thought that I would share this article with you: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2012/01/13/does-jesus-hate-religion-kinda-sorta-not-really/

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  8. I appreciate the depth in which the author of this article went into each verse, giving praise where it was deserved and criticism in the same manner. I can agree that some things were sound while others were not, but the danger with it is that so many people are quick to take this type of thing to heart, which can cause a large amount of people to be mislead. I also appreciate Bethke's openness to respond and take that criticism as a learning opportunity, as was portrayed in the follow up article on their correspondence.

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